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SBG Sword Forum :: Discussions of Swords, Traditional Weapons & Medieval Equipment :: European Medieval and Renaissance Swords :: Falchion Page 1 of 2 » Jump to page   Go     Author Topic: Falchion (Read 1,724 times) philtw Warrior member is offline Poncy McEuan (Shards LARP) Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 73 Location: Redcar UK Karma: 5 Falchion « Thread Started on Oct 19, 2008, 10:37am » Any thoughts on what would be the best Falchion to buy, any good or bad experiences with the Windlass or Valiant Armoury's Falchion..... I have read both reviews would but like to hear second opinions or comments from others ? « Last Edit: Oct 19, 2008, 10:48am by philtw » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Regards Phil www.swashbucklers.co.uk (Webpage) www.swashbucklers.mobi (Mobile Phone Website) Brendan Olszowy Manufacturers and Vendors Review Points: 5 member is offline These people are kindly to beasts, for they are a good and wise folk - Gandalf; ROTK Joined: Mar 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 3,867 Location: Western Australia Karma: 337 Re: Falchion « Reply #1 on Oct 19, 2008, 7:25pm » No. Just that you should find one under 2lb 10 oz. And you will love it. I LOVE my FB Falchion, hence it's my only FB sword not for sale. Because they are shorter they should be quite machete-like. Albion do a beaut which you would do well to acquire. I don't like the look of the VA one. Way over built. Then I worry that the windlass would be too thin coz of their tendancy for thin blades. It should be axelike, but light due to it's compact size. I guess I'd still lean to the windlass. Have you also considered the G2 Celtic and Falcatta? Structurally I'd pick them over the ones you listed. I have the G2 Celtic and it's a great piece! JPFranco has the Falcatta and loves it. I'm not a G2 fanboy, but in the shorter blades I do trust them. But for a Falchion theres not a lot of choice, so the Albion is the only one I can recommend. Or I could make you a killer... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Swords you like! Brenno's SBG Sub Forum, Swordmaking Tutes etc. Click here n Have a geez. Phaeoxen Man at Arms member is offline Ctrl+Alt+SMITE Joined: Oct 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 10 Location: That town near Portland, OR... Karma: 1 Re: Falchion « Reply #2 on Oct 19, 2008, 8:14pm » If you can track one down, there's a model from Windlass called the Sword of St. Michael. There's a positive review by Bill Grandy on myArmoury about that one. It would need work and isn't 'the best' (it's a LONG ways behind what I've seen of either the Albion or Brendan's work) but it seems to be the best in the SBG budget that I've seen reviewed. « Last Edit: Oct 19, 2008, 8:21pm by Phaeoxen » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged This post was made by someone without coherent human thought. Any resemblance to reason, logic or sanity is purely coincidental, and should be regarded as the ramblings of a lunatic who frequently crawls into the corner of his room and talks to a small purple bunny while telling the voices in his head to "SHUT UP BEFORE I [insert random threat of physical injury or torture here]!". HR: Manly Eater of Steaks Swordmaster member is offline There are only 3 foodgroups. Meats, Cheeses, and Breads. Beer counts as liquid bread... Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 568 Location: NJ Karma: 36 Re: Falchion « Reply #3 on Oct 21, 2008, 7:32am » Windlass is FINE. When it comes to whippiness, you only have to worry about their longswords. Their falchions are shorter, so they are fantastic(besides, being whippy isn't much of a problem with a dedicated cutter, just for thrusting). The Sword of St. Michael is an interesting one. They made it double edged, for reasons I don't understand(the painting it's based off of shows an obviously SINGLE edged sword...). I've wanted their Italian Falchion for a long time. The only reason I ended up with the St. Michael was because the Italian was on back order for months, and I gave up. I got to handle one at a Renn Faire, and I deeply regret giving up on it. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged philtw Warrior member is offline Poncy McEuan (Shards LARP) Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 73 Location: Redcar UK Karma: 5 Re: Falchion « Reply #4 on Oct 21, 2008, 7:40am » I am erring towards the windlass Falchion because its based on the Thorpe Falchion (Norwich, UK) and part of my surname is Thorpe....... so I thought it would be a good family heirloom, for the generations to come, especillay if I make sure that I attached the full history with the sword, regarding the 'Thorpe Falchion'. many thanks for your comments Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Regards Phil www.swashbucklers.co.uk (Webpage) www.swashbucklers.mobi (Mobile Phone Website) rammstein Guest Re: Falchion « Reply #5 on Oct 21, 2008, 2:41pm » HR, what about the picture makes it obviously single edged? It appears double edged last I saw it which admittedly was long ago. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged buffjrod Knight Review Points: 30 member is offline Joined: Jul 2008 Gender: Female Posts: 102 Location: Pennsylvania Karma: 22 Re: Falchion « Reply #6 on Oct 21, 2008, 6:23pm » This painting? Not really clear to me - I could go either way on dual or single-edged. In any case, this is the Windlass version of the St. Michael. Not curved like the one in the painting, but it does have a diamond cross section, which is what the painting looks like to me. The reviewer liked the way it handled. The one I really like the look of is the Windlass Italian Falchion. The grip looks like it would be really comfortable, especially the pommel - no digging in. I like the way the pommel design is repeated in the ends of the guard. also I like the double fullers and that bit of sharpened back-blade near the end. Ideally, I would like to see a little bit of curve to the blade and/or that flare like Brendan's - tho maybe not quite as much. I like the "knife-ness" of this one. Unfortunately, I haven't found much in the way of a review of this sword or even detailed stats that include a PoB. Does anybody here own one? I am afraid it might be too blade heavy and the weight at 3lbs 4oz on a <26 inch blade sounds like a lot. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged ShooterMike Firearms Moderator Review Team Member member is offline Mild Mannered Forumite Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 4,067 Location: Texas, USA Karma: 337 Re: Falchion « Reply #7 on Oct 21, 2008, 7:57pm » I have the MRL Medieval Falchion that's based on the Thorpe Falchion. It's the first sword I ever did a review on here on SBG. The review is still up on the main SBG site under the "Slicers and Choppers" section. It's been a pretty decent sword. The handling is good, even now that I am more of an ATrim and Albion "snob" of sorts. There are really only two things I don't like about. The first was the stitched seam on the grip wrap. But that's easy to correct with a new grip wrap. The second is the guard becoming loose and rattling a bit after substantial use. But that happens to just about all MRL swords and generally most sub$300 swords, with extended use/abuse. I think it's still a good buy for the money. But then I think that's probably the case with the other two above as well. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "One should not aim at being possible to understand, but at being impossible to misunderstand." - Quintilian In democracy it's your vote that counts... In feudalism it's your count that votes. Odingaard VIP Reviewer Review Team Shortlist Member member is offline The Original Twist of Cain Joined: Oct 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 1,568 Location: Cartersville, GA Karma: 235 Re: Falchion « Reply #8 on Oct 21, 2008, 8:55pm » I've been eyeing the Gus Trim Falchion on Christian Fletcher's website for a bit. Thinking about picking one up next month. The Windlass version of the Thorpe Falchion is not bad. No real problems except for the ugly stitching on the grip. With the grip redone and a scabbard treatment, I think you would be pretty happy with it. I've had mine for about 6 years now or so. I redid mine with an aged wood grip just like the guy did on MyArmoury.com - nice and easy fix. Not a bad deal at all considering its one of the cheapest Windlass swords right now - I think KoA has it for around $149 or so. I had the Italian Falchion, but I got rid of it. The hilt hardware had a bit of uncorrectable rattle in it. Seemed to be a little ill-fitting. I've held the St. Michael's Falchion, at the grip was a little too small for my bear paws. The VA version looks more like a swap meet rip off of an LoTR Orc sword than a Falchion, it weighs 4lbs and has a 22 inch blade - WTF did they make it out of? Depleted uranium? Good luck in your search from a fellow falchion fan. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged J.E. Sarge / Odingaard Come join the Dark Side in the CSS Forums...we have Angus Trim. http://custom-sword-shoppe.com/forum/index.php Sam I am Swordmaster member is offline Smile! Joined: Sept 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 1,254 Location: Wisconsin Karma: 45 Re: Falchion « Reply #9 on Oct 21, 2008, 10:50pm » Oct 21, 2008, 6:23pm, buffjrod wrote: The one I really like the look of is the Windlass Italian Falchion. The grip looks like it would be really comfortable, especially the pommel - no digging in. I like the way the pommel design is repeated in the ends of the guard. also I like the double fullers and that bit of sharpened back-blade near the end. Ideally, I would like to see a little bit of curve to the blade and/or that flare like Brendan's - tho maybe not quite as much. I like the "knife-ness" of this one. Unfortunately, I haven't found much in the way of a review of this sword or even detailed stats that include a PoB. Does anybody here own one? I am afraid it might be too blade heavy and the weight at 3lbs 4oz on a <26 inch blade sounds like a lot. That reminds me of a very famous phrase, "That's not a knife... now this is a knife!" Anyway I don't have any falchions nor have I ever handled one although I do like their sheer cutting ability. Whichever one you get be sure to review it and let us see what you thought... just in case the rest of us might be considering one. -Sam Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged You think too much. HR: Manly Eater of Steaks Swordmaster member is offline There are only 3 foodgroups. Meats, Cheeses, and Breads. Beer counts as liquid bread... Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 568 Location: NJ Karma: 36 Re: Falchion « Reply #10 on Oct 22, 2008, 11:37am » Oct 21, 2008, 2:41pm, rammstein wrote: HR, what about the picture makes it obviously single edged? It appears double edged last I saw it which admittedly was long ago. Well, to me it doesn't look double edges. Also, the curvature of the one in the painting would make attacks with the spine-edge more difficult. Plus, due to the knucklebow, you can't reverse your grip to make use of the other edge on a normal basis. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged alvin Guest Re: Falchion « Reply #11 on Oct 22, 2008, 12:00pm » With a double edged blade, it is not necessary to reverse one's grip to make a cut with the back or short edge - just make a back cut. From the painting, it could be either a single or double edged blade. But this is a painting of a fictional act done long ago. So it would not be unusual to find artistic license at play. I mean, look at the painting. A sissy-boy with wings on his back and on his silly little pin cushion hat using a buckler almost smaller in diameter than the open mouth of the so-called dragon !! PS - After reading the myArmoury review of the Windlass SWORD, I'd be sorely tempted to get one - looks nice. « Last Edit: Oct 22, 2008, 12:39pm by alvin » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged ShooterMike Firearms Moderator Review Team Member member is offline Mild Mannered Forumite Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 4,067 Location: Texas, USA Karma: 337 Re: Falchion « Reply #12 on Oct 22, 2008, 12:29pm » Regarding the Sword of St. Michael, since the definition of "Falchion" is: 1. Short, heavy, broad-bladed sword with a single edge, bearing a similarity to a heavy scimitar. 2. Short, curved single-edged sword with a broad blade. www.renaissancemagazine.com/glossary/glossaryd-f.html a short, single-edged sword with a cleaver-like curved blade, popular from the 13th century onwards and used with all classes of soldiers www.aemma.org/misc/glossary.html It's my opinion that Windlass screwed up on this one. It would be such a better sword for messer drills (which REQUIRE a flat blunt back edge), and actually be a falchion, if they'd made it single-edged with a sharpened false edge. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "One should not aim at being possible to understand, but at being impossible to misunderstand." - Quintilian In democracy it's your vote that counts... In feudalism it's your count that votes. Mordrent Knight member is offline Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 210 Location: Switzerland Karma: 9 Re: Falchion « Reply #13 on Oct 22, 2008, 2:28pm » hello guys!! .. If someone is interested in the St. Michael Sword-Falchion .. I believe I found a site in which stills in stock .. check it . http://www.firebloodarms.com/FB21026.html Hope this helps .. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged SVNT.HIC.ETIAM.SVA.PRÆMIA.LAVDI philtw Warrior member is offline Poncy McEuan (Shards LARP) Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 73 Location: Redcar UK Karma: 5 Re: Falchion « Reply #14 on Oct 22, 2008, 3:04pm » Thanks for all the commnets the St Micheal sword is interesting but I still think that the Thorpe is probably more accurate. 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