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Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Frank the bunny Swordmaster member is offline I can do anything and so can you Joined: Feb 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 876 Location: NYC Karma: 65 Re: Ronin Katana Dojo vs Dynasty Forge Musha? « Reply #1 on Jul 23, 2010, 8:52pm » I own a DF musha shobu and while it's a fantastic sword that I wouldn't hesitate to recommend, it is a little tip heavy(which I like) and probably wouldn't be considered the fastest of swords. I'm not sure how the other musha models handle or other DF classes for that matter and I have only heard great things about Ronin but since I don't own one couldn't say for sure. so, while this comment seems to be utterly useless I would say that if you wanted a light quick Katana you should probably avoid the musha shobu and lean towards the Ronin. if you like a fierce monster of a cutter then shobu all the way. I've gotten the impression that some other DF's (b-class mostly) are closer to the average balanced Kats another piece of advice might be to completely ignore all that I just said and wait for a better response Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "WALK AS A WARRIOR FOR ALL YOUR DAYS" Oogway Swashbuckler member is offline Joined: Mar 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 411 Location: Anchorage Alaska Karma: 13 Re: Ronin Katana Dojo vs Dynasty Forge Musha? « Reply #2 on Jul 24, 2010, 1:51am » My only run with 1045 steel is a Mushashi that I have. Differences in heat treatment aside, I believe that 1045 is the base lowest acceptable steel for swords. Mine is soft and the edge will roll but it was a cheap (inexpensive) sword. Unless Ronin is doing something fantastic with that steel, I find it hard to believe that the quality of blade would exceed that of the Dynasty Forge I have seen. Realize I have never seen a Ronin. The shobu mentioned above is a killer work horse heavy cutter. It's a shobu, that what they are. Still, the balance beats the hell out of my CS dragonfly. All else aside, my logic is to buy from a forge with a good reputation. Both Ronin and Dynasty Forge seem to pass muster. Assuming that they both do an acceptable heat treatment, I would easily spend the the extra money on a blade made of a steel with a better potential than 1045 can provide. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess. -- Mark Twain warriorpriest Knight member is offline Joined: May 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 197 Karma: 9 Re: Ronin Katana Dojo vs Dynasty Forge Musha? « Reply #3 on Jul 24, 2010, 3:28pm » ^What he said! (and very well,I might add). I think you will hear exactly this opinion, though phrased many different ways. For me, personally (JUST MY OPINION), a 1045 steel katana would only be used for the VERY lightest cutting (pool noodles, ...?). So, yes, if it were my wallet, I would definitely hand over another $55.00 for a 1060 blade. Consider this, too: even Musashi Bamboo katana switched to 1060 after a "first generation" of 1045 blades, and you can get one of those to your front door for under a hundred bucks! I'm not advocating that sword as being anywhere near the quality of Ronin Dojo or DF, just making a point. Good luck and let us know which one you go with, eh? blessings, ~wp Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Dom T. Swordmaster member is offline Success, depress, ambition. Progress, regress, recognition. Joined: Jul 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 766 Location: Where the Yuppies grow, VA Karma: 21 Re: Ronin Katana Dojo vs Dynasty Forge Musha? « Reply #4 on Jul 24, 2010, 3:53pm » The Ronin katana are made in the dotanuki style, i.e. thicker. Dotanuki means 'torso-cutter', I believe. There's more info on the Ronin katana here: http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/Ronin-Katana.html *edited for unclear wording, lol « Last Edit: Jul 24, 2010, 3:57pm by Dom T. » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Here's a thread with my [not-so-good] drawings: http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index....ad=15860&page=1 Feel free to comment and whatnot. Also, tips and suggestions to improve said drawings would be greatly appreciated. "Do you know how to use that thing?" "Yes. The pointy end goes into the other man." theultimatenoob Man at Arms member is offline Joined: Jul 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 20 Karma: 0 Re: Ronin Katana Dojo vs Dynasty Forge Musha? « Reply #5 on Jul 24, 2010, 4:58pm » yea i did some research on both (more on Ronin then DF but i know both have a good reputation) and im thinking of going for a DF Musha (that being if there are any left w/ a theme besides Musashi at the time i have the extra money cuz i dont care for the generic Musashi ring theme and i wouldnt have the money to change the Tsuba) i also know that Ronin has Silk Ito whereas DF has Cotton Ito (but i heard good quality so that wouldnt matter to me) just wanted to know the community's thoughts. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged William Swiger Swordmaster member is offline The way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death. Joined: Mar 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 535 Location: US Armed Forces Europe Karma: 7 Re: Ronin Katana Dojo vs Dynasty Forge Musha? « Reply #6 on Jul 24, 2010, 5:05pm » I have a couple of the Ronin 1045, one Ronin 1060 Pro and one Ronin Elite. My only DF are the 1095 Bushi. The Ronin 1045 are some tough little bastards. As Dom said, they are thick. You cannot go wrong no matter which one you buy. 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