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(Read 865 times) asianfez123 Man at Arms member is offline Joined: Sept 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 8 Location: Washington Karma: 0 help on weird red colored blade katana... « Thread Started on Nov 16, 2008, 1:26am » http://cgi.ebay.com.au/T-1000-SAMURAI-SW....trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 this sword has weird blade color... which is red i think and i don't know enough info about katanas to know about colored blades... is the blade just painted with a red gloss finish or something and this is a question for any other swords that have either red, black or etc blade colors and if you go to global gear they also have a same type of sword except for handle wrapping color and guard except the price on the global gear one is like way more expensive!... http://www.globalgear.com.au/prod2831.htm so really my question is does a colored blade less efficient to a normal forged blade, how good is the g-series of global gear, whats with the label "1000" at the end, and why is the red global gear one so expensive is the blade better or higher steel quality? (and isn't the guard for the first ebay sword the same one as the "kaze" by cheness) Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "If life gives you lemons... ask for a refund" kronan1676 Man at Arms member is offline Joined: Nov 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 39 Karma: 1 Re: help on weird red colored blade katana... « Reply #1 on Nov 16, 2008, 2:51am » Yeah, looks like the same sword with different fittings...and the others on the page make me think this is another version of Badtrack / Sunzhu. Sunzhu seems to be the "cheap" side of Badtrack, just like the ebay seller seems to be the lowball side of globalgear. Personally, not my cup of tea... I seem to get a bad vibe. The red is likely due to whatever they do with their "titanium infusion"...likely some form of surface coating (will 10XX steel take a light anodizing?)...doubt it does anything other than look cool and give them an excuse to charge more. Yes, the tsuba on the 1st one looks like the ones Cheness uses on the Kaze. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Tom K. (ianflaer) VIP Reviewer Review Team Shortlist Candidate member is offline Accusharps are EVIL do not allow them to touch your swords. Survive your first sharp: TRAIN BLUNT! Joined: Apr 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 4,523 Location: Oregon (currently) Karma: 302 Re: help on weird red colored blade katana... « Reply #2 on Nov 16, 2008, 3:02am » really not surprising to run into the kaze tsuba, cheness admits to using after market fittings to help keep things cheap. as far as I know, no one here has one of the red blades, but general concensus seems to be that they will scrape off and lose the color with even slight use or polishing. it shouldn't make too big of a difference in the sword's cutting ability but it is probably not the quality you deserve for the price tag. other-wise global gear seems to be pretty good especially if you live in Australia. there's a real glowing review of a few global gear swords on the main page. If I was willing to spend the money for shipping to the USA I would have probably bought a GG sword or two by now. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged See SBG's COOLEST CUTS: http://sbgswordforum.proboards70.com/ind....ead=7758&page=1 Sharpening Video Tutorials: http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index....3&page=3#155365 wiwingti Guest Re: help on weird red colored blade katana... « Reply #3 on Nov 16, 2008, 10:26am » the sword looks cool but, at the moment that you use that one, the red comes off the blade(if i can call it like that) Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Vtolds Swordmaster Review Points: 15 member is offline Joined: May 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 695 Location: Burlington, VT Karma: 24 Re: help on weird red colored blade katana... « Reply #4 on Nov 16, 2008, 11:32am » I dont think it supposed to be just anodized metal. I think it is suppose to be that color all the way threw the blade since the 2 metal types are infused. There was a topic about this a while ago, but no one could find out for sure. Upon a second look the Ebay one is called a T-1000 and the Global Gear one is a G-1000. If the Global gear one is that color all the way threw that would awesome, but for how cheap the T-1000 is I would stear clear it is probably just anodized. You can even see in the pictures that the G-1000 is much darker on color and is uneven looking which I would say is a sign that the metals are actually forged together to make that color not anodized which would leave a even looking surface which is how the T-1000 looks. « Last Edit: Nov 16, 2008, 11:37am by Vtolds » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Musashi Bamboo Warrior. Civil War Cavalry Saber Kris Cutlery Custom 29A www.sette-experience.com asianfez123 Man at Arms member is offline Joined: Sept 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 8 Location: Washington Karma: 0 Re: help on weird red colored blade katana... « Reply #5 on Dec 1, 2008, 12:23am » o ya the g-1000 from global gear is prob the way to go if you were to get one like that, i mean i hear global gear is good so for that price it prob is a good sword. as for the color all through the sword that would be awesome, i haven't heard of a sword like that tho, i mean for that price it better be or im would never pay that price to have the color stripped off with one swing into a cutting mat. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "If life gives you lemons... ask for a refund" wiwingti Guest Re: help on weird red colored blade katana... « Reply #6 on Dec 2, 2008, 5:28am » with the infusion,,,when it is heated,,,,the air and the heat makes a kind of chemical effects and it gets red,,,but only in surface,,, when you scratch the blade,,the red come off. so,, the red blade scratched get metal color. same as if it was painted, Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Forum Jump--------------------» Home--------------------» General--------------------- General Discussion Board --- SBG Site News and Updates- Sword Manufacturers Talk --- Manufacturers and Vendors Shop Talk --- SBG Discounts- SBG Competitions and Members Collections Gallery --- Members Collections --- Archived Competitions- SBG Special Projects --- SBG Beauty and the Blade Calender --- Kokoro Ichi Project--------------------» Discussions of Swords, Traditional Weapons & Medieval Equipment--------------------- Ancient Swords- European Medieval and Renaissance Swords- Fantasy Swords- Japanese Swords- Chinese Swords- Post Renaissance and Military Swords- Other Traditional Weapons- Armour and Shields--------------------» Reviews--------------------- Sword Reviews --- Review Index --- VIP Reviewer Lounge --- VIP Reviewer Profile- Other Weapons and Armor --- Review Index--------------------» Sword Smithing, Customization and Design--------------------- Sword Repair and Maintenance- Sword Customization Projects- Weapon Making Discussion --- Sword Making Stickies --- Fable Blade Creations- Training Weapon Making Discussion- Tools and Toolmaking- Member Designs--------------------» Training--------------------- General Sword Training- Live Steel and Stage Combat- Asian Martial Arts (JSA, Gumdo, etc)- Western Martial Arts (WMA)- Cutting Vids and Tips--------------------» History--------------------- Sword History- Other Traditional Weapons- Misc History--------------------» Off Topic --------------------- SBG Forum Cafe --- Administration --- politcs-graveyard --- Technical Stuff and FAQ- New Members Welcome Wagon!- Firearms Discussion & History- Role Playing Threads