Post by theultimatenoob on Jul 23, 2010 20:30:14 GMT -5
is it worth it to pay an extra $55 to get a DF Musha instead of a Ronin Dojo?
i mean i heard both were good, and by steel comparison it seems that the most obvious difference between the 2 is that the DF Musha is 1060 vs the Ronin is 1045 - but does that and w/e other differences make it worth spending the extra $?
Post by Frank the bunny on Jul 23, 2010 20:52:35 GMT -5
I own a DF musha shobu and while it's a fantastic sword that I wouldn't hesitate to recommend, it is a little tip heavy(which I like) and probably wouldn't be considered the fastest of swords. I'm not sure how the other musha models handle or other DF classes for that matter and I have only heard great things about Ronin but since I don't own one couldn't say for sure.
so, while this comment seems to be utterly useless I would say that if you wanted a light quick Katana you should probably avoid the musha shobu and lean towards the Ronin. if you like a fierce monster of a cutter then shobu all the way. I've gotten the impression that some other DF's (b-class mostly) are closer to the average balanced Kats
another piece of advice might be to completely ignore all that I just said and wait for a better response
My only run with 1045 steel is a Mushashi that I have. Differences in heat treatment aside, I believe that 1045 is the base lowest acceptable steel for swords. Mine is soft and the edge will roll but it was a cheap (inexpensive) sword.
Unless Ronin is doing something fantastic with that steel, I find it hard to believe that the quality of blade would exceed that of the Dynasty Forge I have seen. Realize I have never seen a Ronin.
The shobu mentioned above is a killer work horse heavy cutter. It's a shobu, that what they are. Still, the balance beats the hell out of my CS dragonfly.
All else aside, my logic is to buy from a forge with a good reputation. Both Ronin and Dynasty Forge seem to pass muster. Assuming that they both do an acceptable heat treatment, I would easily spend the the extra money on a blade made of a steel with a better potential than 1045 can provide.
We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess. -- Mark Twain
Post by warriorpriest on Jul 24, 2010 15:28:01 GMT -5
^What he said! (and very well,I might add). I think you will hear exactly this opinion, though phrased many different ways. For me, personally (JUST MY OPINION), a 1045 steel katana would only be used for the VERY lightest cutting (pool noodles, ...?). So, yes, if it were my wallet, I would definitely hand over another $55.00 for a 1060 blade. Consider this, too: even Musashi Bamboo katana switched to 1060 after a "first generation" of 1045 blades, and you can get one of those to your front door for under a hundred bucks! I'm not advocating that sword as being anywhere near the quality of Ronin Dojo or DF, just making a point. Good luck and let us know which one you go with, eh?
Post by theultimatenoob on Jul 24, 2010 16:58:16 GMT -5
yea i did some research on both (more on Ronin then DF but i know both have a good reputation) and im thinking of going for a DF Musha (that being if there are any left w/ a theme besides Musashi at the time i have the extra money cuz i dont care for the generic Musashi ring theme and i wouldnt have the money to change the Tsuba)
i also know that Ronin has Silk Ito whereas DF has Cotton Ito (but i heard good quality so that wouldnt matter to me)